Top Picture: Clarence Parade 1960
Second Picture: Bilbow and Clibbery in Cosham
Many people, especially those under the age of around 45 will often hear 'us oldens' say "If I'd have spoken to my parents like that, I'd have got a clip round the ear". If you gave a child a clip round the ear nowadays, they'd probably sue you and put you up in front of the European Equal Rights Committee or something very similar!
But in most cases it's true what we say, you would never answer back to your parents or any older person, you would do as you were told because that's how it worked. Possibly part of the reason was that for the last 100 years, the vast majority of us were children of those who fought in the Services during the two Wars and this brought about a discipline. There again, discipline goes back centuries before that even.
It is best write how things were back in the 1950's by just giving examples and the 'rules' which existed, most of which are long forgotten I'm afraid.
1. When any adult, excepting your Parents, entered the Room, you would stand up. If you didn't you'd get ticked off for sure.
2. You would always vacate a Bus or Train seat for a Woman or someone of senior years. You would also offer them your place in a Queue when alighting from a Bus or train.
3. You would never leave the Table without seeking permission first. In fact, you would usually not even bother asking, in the 50's most would eat as a family and then everyone would leave the Table together.
4. "Please" and "Thank you" were compulsory and unlike nowadays, if you didn't say it, it wasn't a case of the Adult saying what an impolite young child you were after you'd left, they would tell you face to face. Also you never said ‘I want’, it was always ‘I would like’.
5. At School, every Teacher was referred to as 'Sir' or 'Madam' and upon entry into the Classroom, everyone would stand up and unanimously say "Good morning Sir or Miss" and if the Headmaster walked in during a lesson you all stood then.
6. If you wore a hat, you would never wear it indoors, home or shop. You would take it off if you met or you were talking to a Lady.
7. "I want" were two 'no no' words, it was always "I would like" or "may I have" (followed by the mandatory Please and Thank you of course.
8. You would always open a door for someone, a woman or adult and allow them entry or exit before you.
9. 'Speak when you're spoken to', another expression us oldens often say. You would not normally make the first comment other than to ask how a person was, you would sit politely when you had guests and wait for the question - and that was usually based around your Schooling!
10. Going back to Buses and Trains and even walking down the Street, if you saw a Lady struggling with her Shopping, you would offer to help, even if that meant going out of your way to take them to he home.
I'm sure there are many more you'd be able to find, but ten is a round number.
Much of the above would remain for some years to follow, but the main change in 'youth' came about in the mid 1960's. Manners and etiquette was just a part of the 1950's lifestyle, it was more disciplined, you wouldn't see so much rubbish in the street, you would find it hard to find untidy front gardens, people wanted to show others that they had things sorted, they were leading a decent life, did the right thing and the children's manners were one way of showing this.
Or am looking through rose tinted spec?
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I'm Tom West in the photo of the 1961 woodwork class. Also went on the trip to Hochsolden, Austria but I'm not in the photo. I have been living abroad for the past 12 years and any photos I may still have are at my sisters home. Found your wonderful collection of memories today, thanks for your efforts. It was a real treat to see them.
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The original Beatles drummer, Pete Best, is getting a street named after him in his native Liverpool. In addition to "Pete Best Drive," another street in a new development there will be called "Casbah Close" to honour the Casbah Club, which Pete's mother owned and where the Beatles got their start.
On this day 15th October 1960-1965.
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On 15/10/1963 the number one single was Do You Love Me? - Brian Poole & the Tremoloes and the number one album was Please Please Me - The Beatles. The top rated TV show was Coronation Street (Granada) and the box office smash was The Great Escape. A pound of today's money was worth £12.64 and Liverpool were on the way to becoming the Season's Division 1 champions.
On 15/10/1964 the number one single was Oh Pretty Woman - Roy Orbison and the number one album was A Hard Day's Night - Beatles. The top rated TV show was Coronation Street (Granada) and the box office smash was Dr Strangelove. A pound of today's money was worth £12.24 and Manchester United were on the way to becoming the Season's Division 1 champions.The big news story of the day was XVIIIth Olympics in Tokyo were under way.
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